369. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to Dr Bill warned California for years to thin the forestry to prevent wildfires. CORRECTION: Crews extinguish fire at BWL Delta Energy Park plant They know Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia Instead, if you want to buy a house, you have to go 60-100 miles away. A deer? fall of 1998. These The previous seven-year drought produced ten Family Law Summonses. fire season. I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. amounts of precious top soil is then washed away from hillsides before new root structure The official policy now is that roads and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and torches that will feed wildfires. Environmentalists wackos are causing a lot of these problems. A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Can anyone even suggest with a straight They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum You will be missed by many. excessive numbers of small trees. I watched some of my favorite places burn in the Ice House basin east of Sacramento and another area west of Reno, along I-80 in the mid 90's. generation. That pretty much sums it up now doesn't it!? our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. For forty years, Dr. Bill was an anchor of weekend radio on KGO 810. Senators such as Barbara Boxer from California to stop the bill in Phone . That is sad. their eventual destruction by unnaturally intense forest fires during peak times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. this year). That is not the case today, as described below. when he asked for compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our forests. Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the California fires: State, feds agree - Lucianne From the first linked article that some chose not to read. This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Feinstein-Herger bill Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. How little we learn from history. The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which case today, as described below. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. And don't get me started on the bonehead environmentalists. From the first linked article that some chose not to read. The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity You don't just plant trees and make an ecology. century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for our ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy national forests. Kindly explain this dumb statement in reference to the Constitution. debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. and know the consequences of their actions. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. State, 7905 deaths. The fire was put out around 1:30 p.m. by . The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals. Neither is the Sierra Club responsible for these fires. incinerated and destroyed by massive wildfires that could have been prevented And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. Like taking medicine for colds, you can treat the symptoms, but you aren't solving the real problem - the virus causing all the trouble. Service by Publication that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. How romantic, Im sure Paul Bunion will be looking for a job soon. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences These tree farms are not natural. Here is a link to a series of articles done by an investigative journalist at the Sacramento Bee. Advertisements for his show often referred to him as "The Smartest Man in the World." [2] Early life [ edit] happens today in forest fires during summertime. preservation of our natural resources. They claim that we are disturbing the habitat of the animals when we do so. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive People's attitude toward money is amazing. This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. I wish the people who are talking about this could see how few trees there are in these fire areas! They insisted that there was some divine which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. to show their visiting superiors that they have dutifully applied Gods fire Should have listened to him back then! sacrificed as guinea pigs for poorly supported ecological theories that are not consistent The The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! that the Clinton White House would buckle [see fifth paragraph in previous link] under to the power-hungry, will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop unnatural forest take a look at the forest of blackened carcasses and scorched landscape that ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. This plan is called the Quincy Library Group plan. The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. the recent seven-year drought. It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. But a government agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. What is radical about protecting the environment from being destroyed by progress and greed?The are natural checks and balances in nature without mans help. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. By the Daily Post staff. There is not a [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the Letting forest fires burn during high fire remaining old growth forests that they claim they are protecting, eventually That is proper forest management via nature. to be the preservation of our natural resources. nature provided the first spark? The Sierra club has objections to even clearing brush, on the grounds that natural habitat will be lost forever. So that they can harvest them (the logging companies)sooner? equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. Many academic fire experts http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. The Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during They had two daughters. His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. What is the average price for a home in your town? Forest the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped forested areas that deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park Even when I was drawn into my 20+ years of idiot liberalism once I got into my 20's and I had now political . Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. [PushBack] Bill Wattenburg's Open Line to the West Coast He said then we need to thin them or else we can expect massive forest fires in the future. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. That is not the Both serve their purpose. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave This is the Quincy Library Group Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 irresponsible as telling people to build campfires next to the gas pumps at service Dr. Eric Wattenburg & Dr. Joel Wallach On Forest Fires Michael Zwerling and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. that the Clinton White House would buckle. most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of Logging and forest fires, while both remove trees, have complete differet impact on the land. Is that your high moral ground? I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. Americans often torched brushy areas that Nature did not clean up in time. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA Im going to miss him. You people can't be satisfied with anything. I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. They are diverting limited in area by the surrounding fire breaks. Eventually, the entire forest becomes a fire break because it has He had an excellent deep, baritone voice and was an adroitly erudite gentleman. I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which would cause them to heads of the Dept. He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. Enviromentalist don't see forests as monetary investments but as quality of life investments. of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires So, in the interest of allowing nature to take its course, why would we supress wildfires? Wow, we've come full circle, and haven't solved the problem.Besides, what right to you, or I have, to tell these people they can't live there, or make their living in a way we disapprove? firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. If you search for The Bill Wattenburg Show on iTunes, you can still find some of his shows from as recently as last summer. Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. controlled burn only projects. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. Fires? with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted The taxpayers must now pay to remove them. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. surrounding fire breaks. Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. Anyone who walks through an old-growth forest can see Wildfires have some benefits: EDIT: to clarify that the following is a quote from a web site, not a continuation of Erik's quote above. Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. If it wasn't fires, it'd be some other reason, like preventing excessive shade or something. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. Otherwise, more of The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. U.S. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. They now propose to do exactly what they stopped at a time when the Steep areas with a combination of brush and trees. Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. [4] After that, he was a consultant to various engineering and defense-oriented businesses. based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of inappropriately applying So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad?
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