Before one can change a cylinder on the Colt Design, the pistol has to be field stripped, and just imagine yourself as a United States Cavalryman, trying to hold his excited horse under control, as he strips the Colt Type revolver down into thee parts, then somehow, (It helps to be ambidextrous & double Jointed!) WebASM Hammer (1858) Check Stock Price US$38.50 Quantity Item 2 Code 111ASM002 Description Asm Hammer (1863 Pocket) Check Stock Price US$24.20 Quantity Item 3 Personally, I use wonder wads, commercially available round pieces of felt soaked in oil and wax (or you can make your own), between the ball and the powder. Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. In 2004 I orderd a Uberti 1851 Colt part from the very back of the Brownells catalog the Uberti part fit better than the original, with both parts out side by side the Uberti had better finnish, the 'ASM' part had tool marks and general over all rough apperance (probibly why The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) In a way, you could say it was two guns in one! THE .44 Spec. Thanks Dan. One of the knocks against the 1858 Remington is that the cylinder tends to bind on the cylinder pin as the pistol gets fouled, and Bore Butter, or even some Crisco, helps keep that cylinder turning smoothly all day long. Got a pair of Ubertis, one stainless and one blue (Thunder and Lightning). 1899. Exc condition, appears unfired. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. I love the old cap and ball revolvers. There are about three or four brands out there, so find the one that works best. Armi San Marco was a family owned gun maker in Brescia, Italy. Remington. View more auctions here. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns ? About 400 ft-lbs Energy. Estimated Price: $400 - $600. The lesson is that if you shoot a black powder rifle dont think you know how to clean this pistol. and they sent me a Pietta trigger which fit just fine. Youve done a real service to fellow shooters there. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. JavaScript is disabled. ROFL, So nice to read about black powder stuff here. Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. 44 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL ARMY REVOLVER IN VERY GOOD CONDITION. My Command Sergeant Major made me promise to shoot it and not just keep it in my safe. Model: 1858. This version features improved accuracy. Youd use either #10 or #11, the 11s being the larger. We spotted this boxed ASM Walker at a pawn and gun shop at a price I couldn't pass up. .44 Cal percussion. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . It has a central shotgun barrel (16 gauge? gens. Youre reloaded. It was a good gun but it went down the road in a swap as I don't care for the grip frame on the Remingtons. Later David. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). If you load it with 30 grains, you get about 200 ft-lbs energy. SOLD 1885 High Wall Manual. Same as for buying an 1873 Colt Peacemakerjust because it was designed prior to 1899 doesnt mean that you can have it shipped to your door. I now have two 58s one with a conversion (to 45 colt cartridge) cylinder from Midway that works great, and no black powder fouling. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST The other great thing about the cap-and-ball revolvers is that they are not considered firearms, so you can buy all you want and have them shipped to your door. I am planning on getting one for my Grandson and maybe one for my Granddaughter. Thanks for the advice, very much appreciated. Any help would be appreciated. Though the guns be identical, the first is free of any legal imcumberance, while the second has an FFL holder and a waiting period to deal with. In the original box serial numbered to the gun. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Im 66 years old and I have been wanting to get a 1858black powder for a while now but because I live in Illinois I cant get no one to order me one . I purchased it new from EMF in 1986. The US Government needed as many revolvers as it could get. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. Further, any muzzle loading rifle, shotgun, or pistol which is designed to use black powder or black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition, is an antique firearm unless it (1) incorporates a firearm frame or receiver; (2) is a firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon; or (3) is a muzzle loading weapon which can be readily Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. FINISH SHOWS MODERATE HANDLING WEAR WITH MODERATE WEAR, SPECKLING AND LIMITED PITTING VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Armi San Marco is out of business. Come visit us at: 1858remington.com Johnnnie Roper,Alias:Gunslinger9378, yup agree totally been doin bp for almost a half century myself n this is an excellent way to clean them your guy needs to foam elsewhere apparently that foam might dribble onto a bun n rust right through it to the table underneath after all foam is water lol. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of I went out of my tent and I could barely see but there was a big ass bear looking at me about 20 feet away. Big thump, big cloud, and I could see the huge rounds hitting the berm when I was spotting through binoculars. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) For effective ignition, a ball has to fit tightly in the cylinder, and consequently a bit is shaved off when loading. I ended up giving it to an NRA black powder teacher to use for show and tell, (to show his class how to ruin a beautiful piece by not properly cleaning before long term storage). WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. I now buy all of my replicas from one distributor EMF Company. ARMI SAN MARCO .45 LC Hartford Model Box Papers Manual Spring, Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco, Armi San Marco dragoon pistol grips pearl / gold leaf plastic, Armi San Marco Hawkeye/Ridgerunner Reference copy single page 7.5x11Diagram, SAN MARCO - ROAD BIKE - SADDLE - ROLLS - GOLD RAILS, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. In my experience, the fit and finish of the Italian replicas is not so much who makes them as who imports them and sells them in the US. 5.5" barrel in .45 Colt. Web1858 Remington, Richards Mason & Open Top Conversion Manual. Same here, EMF Hartford 45s, circa 95-96. But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. He took the gun back. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 1860 Henry Manual. thereof. In my opinion, I don t think its enough. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . If you want to be one of those Youre only hunting if.. people. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. And if both Buffalo Bill and Clint Eastwood liked it in different centuries, you know its got to be good. STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS MINISCULE HANDLING WEAR. Oh MY when I fired the first revlver chamber flash fired the shotgun too, with a full ounce of buckshot. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Nope. In between, he was granted US Patent No. The cookie settings on this website are set to 'allow all cookies' to give you the very best experience. Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. 44 BP; fair bore, good stock, 4'' barrel, Made in Spain. These models have steel frames with German silver plated backstrap and trigger guard, inspectors cartouche on grip, and trade for approximately $20-$40 higher than standard They fit just about any cap and ball firearm. The 1858 Remington-Beals got the nod because of the top strap (previous buy didnt, Navy in .36) and it came with an extra cylinder. The 12 month average price is $290.50 new and $284.87 used. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. Not that theres anything wrong with that. I have heard it all about these weapons not having the power to stop anything bigger than a deer or coyotes. Western Pennsylvania, Keystone of Freedom, CAS, Fine Wood Working, Toggle Link Rifle Tuner , SA Tuner, Casting, Reloading, Firing Black Powder guns Some of it justifiedhowever if you know the reason then it's some what understandable. Very scary as all get out. Blackpowder Mortar & Cannon by Seacoast Artillery, Hand Loading Rifles & Handguns by Diamond K Brass, Bolt Action Rifles Sponsored by Camera Land. But its not hunting. My theory was that the chamber pressure was too high and the percussion cap was pushing the hammer back causing the cylinder to try to rotate while the ball was passing from the cylinder to the forcing cone. It was Assistant District Attorney Ben Stone that shot LaHood. Lot 429: Armi San Marco Reproduction 1858 Revolver Two Reproduction Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: November 3, 2016 Estimated Price: $ 200 - $ 500 Price Realized: Details A) Armi San Marco Model 1858 Remington Revolver with Matching Box Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO Model: 1858 Type: Revolver Gauge: 44 percussion COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I remember this because I had a pair of them at the time this came up. So If you load the .44 Remington with something like 25 grains blackpoweder you only get about 100 ft-lbs energy. Two Armi San Marco 1858 New Model Percussion Revolvers Auction Date: May 25, 2022. But on my wish-they-would-make list a 5-shot .50 Old Army designed for sabot bullets and 50-grain Pydrodex pellets. I have an ASM Colt clone. That's your build date. WebASM Hammer (1858) Check Stock Price US$38.50 Quantity Item 2 Code 111ASM002 Description Asm Hammer (1863 Pocket) Check Stock Price US$24.20 Quantity Item 3 Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. ). WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. New in Box-never fired. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. -drop safety-Hammer - Z52778, A. Uberti & C. Cattleman 1873 hikin PCT ,shooting steel bandits .TRAINS, shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing. It blew LaHood through a windowyumm. Finish in very good condition with some scratches and nicks. Not Richards Mason, but Richards like Tom Selleck had in "Sabre River". Pew Poll: Gun Control Losing Steam, Money and Popularity, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, The 3 Most Important Handgun Shooting Stances to Learn, http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/blackpowder-revolvers/1851-1861-navy-collection/1851-navy-steel-36-5-octagonal-barrel-steel-case-hardened-frame-brass-backstrap-trigger-guard-model-002.html, Johnnie Roper (Gunslinger9378 on the 1858Remington.com Forum. Swapping barrels can involve fitting the arbor to the barrel sometimes. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of Red Coats Get Run Off. If yoiui can keep all six shots in a four inch circle, at whatever range you think you are likely to see a deer, then take your Remington Percussion Revolver hunting. 1866 Rifle Manual. (Of course, if you want the value of a gun to quadruple, just buy it from me and wait five years.) Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. The Colts often did have short safety pins at the back of the cylinder which could be engaged with the notch in the hammer nose, to accomplish exactly the same thing however. Black powder is scary in the beginning. It's not my "go to" rifle, (that is an AWA Lightning) but now that it's been worked on, it's a nice one. All three of my BP weapons took the same size cap. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. 44 BP; excellent bore, good grips, 8'' barrel, Made in Italy. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it.. By the way; it is a pretty decent movie in the class with Quiggley Down Under.almost. My neighbor has a deer lease with a very comfortable raised blind. WebArmi San Marco ASM 2nd Model Dragoon ASM 1847 Walker ASM 1849 Pocket ASM 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1858 1863 pocket ASM 1860 Army ASM 1861 Navy ASM 1862 1849 Wells Fargo ASM 1873 Single Action ASM 1892 Categories Armi San Marco Beretta Pedersoli Uberti Pietta Armi Sport [Chiappa] IAB [Pedretti] Sharps KIRST Visit Our Site and Get Your Favorite Actors or Actresses Outfits now at the best prices. Barrel: 12 inch Fine review with everything that makes a gun review great: guns, history and guns. Retail $300. I wasn't there. First load powder, then press ball. I am sure it will do for deer. (No, I didn't win it my son beat me in the shoot-off. 1885 Low Wall Manual. Snapped back so hard the hammer tore a chunk of meat from my thumb. .44 Cal percussion. SOLD To avoid the dreaded chain fire, find caps that fit tightly on your nipples. Im 75, so I move a bit slower than earlier today. No, there is little if any chance "any" parts you currently see, other than springs, that would work in an ASM. Remington made a cartridge conversion in .46 rimfire, after they ponied up the royalty fee to Smith & Wesson and their fancy-pants bored-through revolver cylinders for metallic cartridges. . He carried a nickel plated 8 Remington 1858 and a peacemaker. For shooting comfortable loads for target shooting I use 20g black-powder followed with 20g of Cream of Wheat then the ball and finally the lard-beeswax. Claimed copyright infringement. If were arbitrarily going to pick a time period of weaponry that makes you a true hunter, lets go caveman. THE BLUING IS VERY GOOD BUT SHOWS LIGHT OXIDATION ON THE BACKSTRAP. WOODEN GRIPS ARE NEAR MINT 45 Caliber; 85% blue, very good bore, very good stock, 10'' barrel, REPRODUCTION KENTUCKY PERCUSSION PISTOL. I found that mis fires and hang fires happened all the time. I always chuckle when I clean it in the sink with soap and water. Fordyce Beals knew what he was doing. Many find that the higher loads are less accurate. If you are using a big bore handgun, the little 22 seems like a free party. WebThe 1858 Remington New Army is both a beautiful collectors piece and a rugged side arm. They are cheaper to buy, but the first time you put any Hot Loads through one, the Soft Brass Frame will stretch, and youll just have a thing that LOOKS like a gun, but all you can do with it is hang it on the Living Room Wall!!!! However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and I have two ASM revolvers, both were imports thru EMF. And thats part of the beauty of cap-and-ball revolvers; you can vary the powder charge any time you wantlight loads for plinking, and heavy loads for whatever. 1873 Single Action Manual. If youve ever thought about getting into cap-and-ball pistols, and want an easy-to-use handgun thats also rugged and dependable, check out an 1858 Remington. I do have to give credit to ASM for the fact that most of their reproductions were historically correct.
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